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	<title>Comments on: ULNS is not really L and far from UL</title>
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	<description>Opinionated and most of the time grumpy postings about reef aquariums</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://grumpyreefer.net/2009/10/28/ulns-is-not-really-l-and-far-from-ul/comment-page-1/#comment-455</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran zeo for over a year and I see exactly the point your trying to make!! I liked the results of zeo but modified the system a bit to make it more realistic and not dump loads of money into KZ&#039;s pockets.

My question is this:

There are many examples of people having RTN and STN after a sudden alk spike occurs when maintaining very low nutrient levels (whether that be from the zeo process or other forms of achieving a very low nutrient level). The same reaction has been noted when a system, which is low in nutrients, (not just by the zeo process) is kept at an alk of 7-8dkh then the reefer tries to raise the alk to 9 or 10 dkh. I&#039;ve done this myself and see necrosis as soon as the alk gets above 8 dkh (when doing this I raise alk very slowly over several days by increasing the alk 2 part dosing rate on my monitor - just want to clarify I&#039;m not just dumping in a handful of soda ash). Any thoughts on why this tissue loss occurs?? This definately isn&#039;t limited to just zeo systems.

Jeremy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran zeo for over a year and I see exactly the point your trying to make!! I liked the results of zeo but modified the system a bit to make it more realistic and not dump loads of money into KZ&#8217;s pockets.</p>
<p>My question is this:</p>
<p>There are many examples of people having RTN and STN after a sudden alk spike occurs when maintaining very low nutrient levels (whether that be from the zeo process or other forms of achieving a very low nutrient level). The same reaction has been noted when a system, which is low in nutrients, (not just by the zeo process) is kept at an alk of 7-8dkh then the reefer tries to raise the alk to 9 or 10 dkh. I&#8217;ve done this myself and see necrosis as soon as the alk gets above 8 dkh (when doing this I raise alk very slowly over several days by increasing the alk 2 part dosing rate on my monitor &#8211; just want to clarify I&#8217;m not just dumping in a handful of soda ash). Any thoughts on why this tissue loss occurs?? This definately isn&#8217;t limited to just zeo systems.</p>
<p>Jeremy</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Reefer</title>
		<link>http://grumpyreefer.net/2009/10/28/ulns-is-not-really-l-and-far-from-ul/comment-page-1/#comment-452</link>
		<dc:creator>Grumpy Old Reefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Boomer!

Compared to you, I&#039;m just a cheerful, young boy :D :D :D

Thanks for the NO3 test kit link, I&#039;ll put it on top of my shopping list!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Boomer!</p>
<p>Compared to you, I&#8217;m just a cheerful, young boy <img src='http://grumpyreefer.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://grumpyreefer.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://grumpyreefer.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for the NO3 test kit link, I&#8217;ll put it on top of my shopping list!</p>
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		<title>By: Boomer</title>
		<link>http://grumpyreefer.net/2009/10/28/ulns-is-not-really-l-and-far-from-ul/comment-page-1/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>Boomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I forgot there old buddy, for ultra Nitrate N-NO3 if interested

http://www.nitrate.com/sw-ntk2.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I forgot there old buddy, for ultra Nitrate N-NO3 if interested</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nitrate.com/sw-ntk2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nitrate.com/sw-ntk2.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Boomer</title>
		<link>http://grumpyreefer.net/2009/10/28/ulns-is-not-really-l-and-far-from-ul/comment-page-1/#comment-450</link>
		<dc:creator>Boomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tatu 

You grumpy old man. I did not know you had a blog. Nice to see you put things in a better perspective like the other old grumpy man often does :) And thinks for you know what.</description>
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<p>You grumpy old man. I did not know you had a blog. Nice to see you put things in a better perspective like the other old grumpy man often does <img src='http://grumpyreefer.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  And thinks for you know what.</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Reefer</title>
		<link>http://grumpyreefer.net/2009/10/28/ulns-is-not-really-l-and-far-from-ul/comment-page-1/#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>Grumpy Old Reefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Very nice to hear from you!

Interesting that professionals use silicate. It would be a great subject for your next article at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coralscience.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;coralscience.org&lt;/a&gt; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Very nice to hear from you!</p>
<p>Interesting that professionals use silicate. It would be a great subject for your next article at <a href="http://www.coralscience.org" rel="nofollow">coralscience.org</a> <img src='http://grumpyreefer.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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