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	<title>Comments on: Weapons of Nutrient Destruction: cone and pellets with sugar on top</title>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Reefer</title>
		<link>http://grumpyreefer.net/2009/09/22/weapons-of-nutrient-destruction-cone-and-pellets-with-sugar-on-top/comment-page-1/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator>Grumpy Old Reefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kato Marko :)

Ovat todella mielenkiintoisia joo. Mukavaa että välillä kehitellään jotain uuttakin!

Biopelletit eivät taida olla ihan vielä myynnissä mutta pitäisi ilmaantua kohta verkkokauppoihin, todennäköisesti ensin Hollannin ja Belgian sellaisiin. Jenkkeihin se tulee vasta myöhemmin.

Voit tilata niitä suoraan valmistajalta laittamalla viestiä (http://www.reefinterests.com/component/option,com_contact/task,view/contact_id,1/Itemid,29/). Kannattaa varmaan kysellä miten toimii ilman vaahdotinta mutta itse en ainakaan heti keksi miksei toimisi?

Tuuhan käymään joskus kun Tampereella liikut!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kato Marko <img src='http://grumpyreefer.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ovat todella mielenkiintoisia joo. Mukavaa että välillä kehitellään jotain uuttakin!</p>
<p>Biopelletit eivät taida olla ihan vielä myynnissä mutta pitäisi ilmaantua kohta verkkokauppoihin, todennäköisesti ensin Hollannin ja Belgian sellaisiin. Jenkkeihin se tulee vasta myöhemmin.</p>
<p>Voit tilata niitä suoraan valmistajalta laittamalla viestiä (<a href="http://www.reefinterests.com/component/option,com_contact/task,view/contact_id,1/Itemid,29/" rel="nofollow">http://www.reefinterests.com/component/option,com_contact/task,view/contact_id,1/Itemid,29/</a>). Kannattaa varmaan kysellä miten toimii ilman vaahdotinta mutta itse en ainakaan heti keksi miksei toimisi?</p>
<p>Tuuhan käymään joskus kun Tampereella liikut!</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Reefer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpy Old Reefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt,

Please report your findings, either here or at ReefCentral: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=1694529

I think Reef pearls are the best invertebrate food I&#039;ve tried so far (I&#039;ve tried many!). Especially the 100-300 um size, it&#039;s satisfying to watch even small polyp gorgonians eating them. The smaller size (5-100 um) is bit too messy, I would have liked more well defined particles. But it is also eagerly eaten by all and seems to be very well liked by one of my crinoids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt,</p>
<p>Please report your findings, either here or at ReefCentral: <a href="http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=1694529" rel="nofollow">http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=1694529</a></p>
<p>I think Reef pearls are the best invertebrate food I&#8217;ve tried so far (I&#8217;ve tried many!). Especially the 100-300 um size, it&#8217;s satisfying to watch even small polyp gorgonians eating them. The smaller size (5-100 um) is bit too messy, I would have liked more well defined particles. But it is also eagerly eaten by all and seems to be very well liked by one of my crinoids.</p>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morjens Tatu

Nuo Biopelletit kuulostavat tosi mielenkiintoiselta materialta myös altaisiin ilman vaahdotinta. Orgaanisen hiilen lisääminen em. tankkeihin ei nimittäin perinteisellä metodilla toimi, mutta jos tuosta materiasta ei oleellisesti liukene hiiliyhdisteitä veteen, niin sitä voisi käyttää ulkosuodattimessa nimenomaan bakteeriplanktonin tuotantoon normaalien suodatinmassojen jälkeen. Tilasitko Tatu Biopellettejä USA:sta? Onko tietoa milloin tulee Eurooppalaisiin nettikauppoihin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morjens Tatu</p>
<p>Nuo Biopelletit kuulostavat tosi mielenkiintoiselta materialta myös altaisiin ilman vaahdotinta. Orgaanisen hiilen lisääminen em. tankkeihin ei nimittäin perinteisellä metodilla toimi, mutta jos tuosta materiasta ei oleellisesti liukene hiiliyhdisteitä veteen, niin sitä voisi käyttää ulkosuodattimessa nimenomaan bakteeriplanktonin tuotantoon normaalien suodatinmassojen jälkeen. Tilasitko Tatu Biopellettejä USA:sta? Onko tietoa milloin tulee Eurooppalaisiin nettikauppoihin?</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am having some sent over across the pond and will try them in a fluidized reactor.  It will be interesting to compare results. 
Another question, how are you liking the reef pearls?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having some sent over across the pond and will try them in a fluidized reactor.  It will be interesting to compare results.<br />
Another question, how are you liking the reef pearls?</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Reefer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpy Old Reefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt,

Thank you for the suggestion!

I currently have them in a media bag in very fast water flow. I&#039;ve talked to manufacturer and according to them it should work equally well. There is difference though because in a fluidizing reactor the bacteria are constantly removed in small amounts. Using a media bag you must disturb the media every now and then and this results in a very large amount of bacteria in one batch.

I don&#039;t know which is better... I do like the larger bacteria aggregates that the media bag produces. I&#039;ve also considered adding a small air pump and putting it on a timer. It would then pump air a minute or two into the bag and thus releasing the bacteria. This could be done once or twice a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt,</p>
<p>Thank you for the suggestion!</p>
<p>I currently have them in a media bag in very fast water flow. I&#8217;ve talked to manufacturer and according to them it should work equally well. There is difference though because in a fluidizing reactor the bacteria are constantly removed in small amounts. Using a media bag you must disturb the media every now and then and this results in a very large amount of bacteria in one batch.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know which is better&#8230; I do like the larger bacteria aggregates that the media bag produces. I&#8217;ve also considered adding a small air pump and putting it on a timer. It would then pump air a minute or two into the bag and thus releasing the bacteria. This could be done once or twice a day.</p>
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